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April 23, 2021

Justice Course – an Indian Perspective

by viggy — Categories: experience, lectures, Panchatantra, social — Tags: , , Leave a comment

I have just begun listening to the Justice: What is the right thing to do? Course by Micheal Sandel. The course puts forward many fundamental questions about our understanding of Justice, morality, behaviour. Many of the questions may seem very obvious and yet it is very difficult to put them together into a coherent thought. And the same understanding and answers look completely shattered when asking questions put in different perspective or in different scenarios. It is just amazing that as society advances, such very basic philosophical questions have endured. Micheal Sandel plays the role of a presenter who keeps presenting different questions in front of his audience and then pokes and helps them navigate to come up with better understanding of the answers, not necessarily a fixed complete answer.

As I am going through this course, I look for understanding within my cultural framework and how we have been introduced to the concept of justice and morality. For many of us, Hindu mythology and hundreds of stories around it was what introduced and gave us some idea of justice and morality. Rama killing Ravana as a fight to establish Ram Rajya, a just society. Krishna explaining Bhagavad Gita to Arjun convincing him to fight his own family. In my much younger days, it was the Panchatantra stories, the Tenali Raman and Birbal stories that introduced me to right and wrong.

Hindu mythology puts forward examples and stories for anyone to understand about justice and morality, I have not gone in-depth in it to be able to understand why it recommends what it does. The justice course looks at examples not to explain what is right or wrong but to give us a framework based on different western philosophers and their understanding of right and wrong. Hence it leaves the questions unanswered but still gives the audience enough information to allow them to make their own choices and their own understanding of justice and morality.
Given the limited understanding of both Indian and Western perspective on justice and morality, even at this introductory level, I can clearly identify two distinction between the western perspective and Indian perspective.

Firstly, it amazes me how much materialistic the western perspective is. It talks about rights of an individual, meaning of freedom within a society, etc, However it seems to revolve largely around the idea of value, monetary or otherwise and concept of utility to humankind. When it talks of nature, it either talks of something of value, something to be used by humankind or the humankind itself. There seem to be a very clear distinction between the life of an animal or plant as against the life of a human. While it gives utmost respect and importance to the life of human, the life of any other animal or plant seems to be equal to the utility it provides to human and maybe equivalent to utility provided by non-living materials. In contrast, the Hindu mythology seem to be able to give as much consideration to life of a human as to life in any other living being. The characters and the examples revolve as much around humans as plants and animals. The idea of nature is much more wholistic and the importance of any life much more sacred and prominent. The interactions of the characters are also much more complex than just utility based.

Secondly, the western perspective when talking of an individual is much wary of an individual very separated from any associations or attachments with others around him or her. When talking about pleasures, desires, needs, the individual seems to be the only in spotlight and everyone else around him just doesn’t seem to exist. The interactions with other individuals seem very transactional. This way, I believe that western perspective does not consider much more complex interactions between individuals and the idea of pleasures, desires and needs seem much more hollow in their outlook. The relationship of an individual and society is very much looked only through the prism of government and its laws. The idea of family is only considered as social organization and not as an entity in itself. This again highlights how much detached and distinct the individual is from the society around him. In contrast, Hindu mythology seem to consider individuals very much part of the society and their interactions are much deeper relationships and its impact in different scenarios. It is very difficult to isolate an individual and his/her actions. It seems to be much more an action of society manifested by the individual. The individual in many cases cannot be distinguished from the family they are part of and family seems to be just extrapolation of the individual. This directly impacts how individual rights, freedom and property is considered. Hence from philosophical point of view, individuals, family and society seem to be just different scales of the same unit and very difficult to distinguish.

These distinctions between western and Indian philosophy seem to give raise to completely different set of complexities in each scenario. I will continue to explore the distinctions and understand the two philosophies.

July 26, 2011

Peace Of Mind

by viggy — Categories: Panchatantra — Tags: , , Leave a comment

Once Buddha was walking from one town to another town with a few of his followers. This was in the initial days. While they were travelling, they happened to pass a lake. They stopped there and Buddha told one of his disciples, “I am thirsty. Do get me some water from that lake there.”

The disciple walked up to the lake. When he reached it, he noticed that some people were washing clothes in the water and, right at that moment, a bullock cart started crossing through the lake. As a result, the water became very muddy, very turbid. The disciple thought, “How can I give this muddy water to Buddha to drink!” So he came back and told Buddha, “The water in there is very muddy. I don’t think it is fit to drink.”

After about half an hour, again Buddha asked the same disciple to go back to the lake and get him some water to drink. The disciple obediently went back to the lake. This time he found that the lake had absolutely clear water in it. The mud had settled down and the water above it looked fit to be had. So he collected some water in a pot and brought it to Buddha.

Buddha looked at the water, and then he looked up at the disciple and said, “See what you did to make the water clean. You let it be … and the mud settled down on its own – and you got clear water… Your mind is also like that. When it is disturbed, just let it be. Give it a little time. It will settle down on its own. You don’t have to put in any effort to calm it down. It will happen. It is effortless.”

What did Buddha emphasize here? He said, “It is effortless.” Having ‘peace of mind’ is not a strenuous job; it is an effortless process. When there is peace inside you, that peace permeates to the outside. It spreads around you and in the environment, such that people around start feeling that peace and grace.

November 9, 2010

3. The Donkey in the well

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Original Source :: http://www.market4us.com/donkey/index.html

One day a farmer’s donkey fell down into a well. The animal cried piteously for hours as the farmer tried to figure out what to do. Finally he decided the animal was old and the well needed to be covered up anyway, it just wasn’t worth it to retrieve the donkey.
So he invited all his neighbors to come over and help him. They all took a shovel and began to shovel dirt into the well. At first, the donkey realised what was happening and cried horribly. Then, to everyone’s amazement, he quieted down. A few shovel loads later, the farmer finally looked down the well and was astonished at what he saw.
With every shovel of dirt that hit his back, the donkey was doing something amazing. He would shake it off and take a step up. As the farmer’s neighbors continued to shovel dirt on top of the animal, he would shake it off and take a step up. Pretty soon, everyone was amazed as the donkey stepped up over the edge of the well and trotted off!
Moral: Life is going to shovel dirt on you, all kinds of dirt. The trick to getting out of the well is to shake it off and take a step up. Each of our troubles is a stepping stone. We can get out of the deepest wells just by not stopping, never giving up! Shake it off and take a step up!

November 9, 2010

2. Importance of small things

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Original source:: http://cityblogger.com/archives/2010/11/01/recycling-the-buddha-way

Buddha, one day, was in deep thought about the worldly activities and the ways of instilling goodness in human beings. The following is the text of conversation between him and his disciple.

One of the disciples approached him and said humbly “Oh my teacher! While you are so much concerned about the world and others, why don’t you look into the welfare and needs of your own disciples also?”.

Buddha: OK…Tell me how I can help you?

Disciple: Master, My attire is worn out and is beyond the decency to wear the same. Can I get a new one please?

Buddha found the robe indeed was in a bad condition which needed replacement. He asked the store keeper to give the disciple a new robe to wear on. The disciple thanked Buddha and retired to his room.

Though he met his disciple’s requirement, Buddha was not all that contended on his decision. He realized he missed out some point. A while after, he realized, what he should have asked the disciple? He went to his disciple’s place and asked him “Is your new attire comfortable? Do you need anything more?”

Disciple: Thank you my Master. The attire is indeed very comfortable. I need nothing more.
Buddha: Having got the new one, what did you do with your old attire?
Disciple: I am using it as my bedspread.
Buddha: Then…hope you have disposed off your bed spread.
Disciple: No…no…Master. I am using my old bedspread as my window curtain.
Buddha: What about your old curtain?
Disciple: Being used to handle hot utensils in the kitchen
Buddha: Oh…I see…Can you tell me what they did with the old cloth they
used in Kitchen?
Disciple: They are being used to wash the floor.
Buddha: Then, the old rug being used to wash the floor…????
Disciple: Master, since they were torn off so much, we could not find
any better use, but to use as a twig in the oil lamp, which is right
now lit in your study room….

Buddha smiled in contentment and left for his room.

November 8, 2010

1. The Best Salesman Ever !!

by viggy — Categories: Fun, Panchatantra — Tags: , , 1 Comment

Original source: http://gpraveenkumar.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/the-best-salesman-ever/

A keen immigrant Indian Marwadi lad applied for a salesman’s job at London ‘s premier downtown department store. In fact, it was the biggest store in the world – you could get anything there.

The boss asked him, “Have you ever been a salesman before?” “Yes sir, I was a salesman in India “, replied the lad. The boss liked the cut of him and said, “You can start tomorrow and I’ll come and see you.”

The day was long and arduous for the young man, but he got through it. And finally 6:00 PM came around. The boss duly fronted up and asked, “How many sales did you make today?” “Sir, Just ONE sale.” said the young salesman. “Only one sale?” blurted the boss. “No! No! You see here, most of my staff make 20 or 30 sales a day. “If you want to keep this job, you’d better be doing better than just one sale. By the way “How much was the sale worth?”

93300534.00 pounds” said the young Marwadi. “What”,” How did you manage that?” asked the flabbergasted boss.

“Well”, said the salesman, “This man came in and I sold him a small fish hook, then a medium hook and finally a really large hook. Then I sell him new fishing rod and some fishing gear. Then I asked him where he was going fishing and he said down the coast. So I told him he’d be needing a boat, so I took him down to the boat department and sold him that twenty-foot schooner with the twin engines. Then he said his Volkswagen probably wouldn’t be able to pull it, so I took him to our automotive department and sold him that new Deluxe 4X4 Blazer.

I then asked him where he’ll be staying, and since he had no accommodation, I took him to camping department and sold him one of those new igloo 6-sleeper camper tents. Then the guy said, while we’re at it, I should throw in about $100 worth of groceries and two cases of beer.

The boss took two steps back and asked in astonishment, “You sold all that to a guy who came in for a fish hook!!”

“No” answered the salesman, “he came in to buy a headache relief tablet and I said to him, “Sir, fishing is best headache removal”

Boss – “You sit in my chair…….

Moral of the story::
According to me, the salesman was able to make that sale not because of his convincing power or ability to sale but due to his ability to understand the complete use case for the customer. A normal salesman would have sold the tablet that he was asked for and be happy but this salesman actually tried to understand the customer’s problem and helped him to solve the problem. Again this can become true only in ideal scenarios where a salesman has time enough to understand the customer problem. But I think it is a good quality for a salesman to have.

November 8, 2010

My own Panchatantra collections

by viggy — Categories: Fun, Panchatantra — Tags: , , Leave a comment

I have always liked to read small stories which have great meaning and moral behind them. It can be those of Panchatantra or those written by Leo Tolstoy. However many times I find that I forget these stories and hence I will now start documenting them here. It might not necessary be a popular story, even a small incident described by someone in form a story will do for this section. The idea is to keep a record of such instances so that they can be taken as an experience in future to decide something. However as his might clearly lead to some copyright issues, I would like to clearly state here that I am doing this only for the reasons stated above and not for any commercial gains. Also all the content shared by me here will be under CC by SA license if their original sources dont have any problems with that. I would also mention the original sources every time I come to know of it.